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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby jsa » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:55 pm

He is right though.

YOU NEED TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby jeeptech77 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:16 am

JSA I NEVER SAID HE WAS WRONG !!
HAVE A GREAT DAY !
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby oharris » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:14 am

decipha wrote:no big deal when i get some free time i'll toss it in there


I don't suppose you've had the time to get to this?
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:16 am

nope, never needed it so i never did it, i do have one of the bins gone through tho, i think la3, i ran through the disassembly a few years back as it was small and i was curious, i just never had the inclination to put an xdf together for it since no premium member has needed it nor requested it
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby jeeptech77 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:24 am

DECIPHA WHAT EXACTLY IS A PREMIUM MEMBER ?
I COULD NOT IMAGINE YOU TAKING THAT MUCH TIME TO DISTRIBUTE SOMETHING THERE IS NO MONEY IN
U WANTED 1G TO JUST REWORK BOOST CONTROL ON LA3
WHATS THE COST TO COMPLETELY BREAK OUT LA3 AND PROVIDE A STRATAGY BIN AND XDF ??
MIGHT BE WORTH A GROUP PURCHASE IM SURE YOU CAN DO IT FASTER THAN ME
SO IF YOU CAN WHIP IT UP PUT A PRICE ON IT SO ALL THE MEMBER CAN SEE IF THERE IS A INTEREST IN A GROUP PURCHASE
ONE GUY PAYING FOR SOMETHING YOU ARE JUST GOING TO GIVE AWAY TO OTHER MEMBERS IS A REALLY BAD WAY OF DOING BUSINESS
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:58 am

you have caps lock on

premium member is someone who donates to keep the forum running in return I remotely tune their vehicle in my free time

http://www.efidynotuning.com/remote.htm

you may not imagine it but its true, i spend countless hours chipping away at this stuff to help the diy community, im the only one that does it, if i dont do it no one will

no such thing as just reworking boost control it requires erasing the code and creating new code from scratch, tis a tedious and time consuming project

im not doing business. If I create support for someone theres no point in not sharing all of my hard work to help others.

I dont do any of this for the money i do it to help out the community. $1000 to fully break out a strat comes out to less than $1 /hr when its all said and done.

Is there any reason why you dont just upgrade to a new ecu? The 4cyl svo engine went pretty much unchanged until 2006 in the ranger. You can very easily swap a significantly newer eec-iv in there out of a 2006 ranger or so and tune it. All of the edis stuff can be swapped on without too much trouble.
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby PoetsRevenge » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:38 pm

I have a few random computers from turbocoupes at my access/disposal. LA2, LA3, maybe another 2 would have to check. If you need any bins i could try to get raw pulls from them for you. I know IT/computers reasonably well, but have limited experience in automotive computing with addressing and such.. So i don't know if there's any way i can lend help to the process but i'd be willing to try.

I looked at it, and having run turbocoupes 15 years ago (made 400whp out of them) but had access to dealer hardware and could edit using their tooling.. only LA2/3 was worth my time even back then. It simply had better hardware than the other computers. I didn't have to modify it much if I recall, injector slopes, ignition curves, set some limits and it was "good enough" I used primative methods back then (think 2002) to get enough fuel.

Thinking of doing it today, since I still have a lot of the old stuff laying around, and have a gas-saver little ranger, Decipha has never steered me wrong, and looking through the options i'd have to fully agree you'll be better off with a newer ecu.

Those old comps were very simple, which wasn't a "bad" thing, but when you're trying to push a lot of pressure on a little motor, things like precise ignition timing can have a very big effect.
I have the hardware on my current build, to run a GUFB so going to try that first I think,, the next one I do if i do another, I'll skip right to the fine pitch crank sensor and the newest ecu I can finagle in there lol.

I guess since this has been a hobby for the last 10 years, no longer a "job" I try to find the easiest way to make something run. That to me looks like running any of the highly supported comps on Decipha's fully supported list, since the hard work has already been put in there!

Thank you for all you do!
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby jeeptech77 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:28 am

decipha i have no interest in giving up on a project just because its not easy!
admit it 30 years later and no one that is willing to share has fully reworked a 4cyl t ecu!
kinda funny as much time and effort as everyone of the upper class members here seem to think they have that ability but its just not worth there time/but its cool to be on here every second of the day for any updates and to criticize anyone trying seems really counter productive
to me ! dont you think so decipha ?? i mean after all you are spending a shit load of time writing page after page to educate the general public
on ford eec
all fine and well except for the fact you do not know me but yet unlike the treatment other members here get (RESPECT) you want to dissuade me in any attempt to further my personal education on specifically eeciv units
i read so many dumb questions you pour effort and time into someone who cannot even tune
you hold there hand help them along for the good of man kind! that is a great kind of person to be i have trained 1000s of techs its a good feeling to see someone prosper and not go through the hardships of the things experience teaches a person !

To you and all others here i am not going to a diff ecu just because what i have needs polished
i do not give up on something especially when i know there is no satisfaction in being a quitter
i mean its not like i cannot do what i want to do ! rewriting intel code is time consuming ,its clear no one that has spent the time to educate there self on la3 is willing to step up and offer me any productive advice and im good with that
starting off not knowing anything about disassembly or 1980s intel code im quite happy with my progress i will be sure to post dyno and track results when i get to the numbers i have set for a goal for a stock la3
i can confidently say thanks to the one guy that gave me a great start on all this i am extremely pleased with my results from just a few months of work .
and i currently have the most functional error free la3 code to date
i will not release any of it till its complete as i am not donating my time to managing a research and development for the general public
if you decipha or anyone else for the matter has a problem with me coming here to learn !!!! just like all the other productive members do
speak up say something i can go else where ??
other wise if anyone does not want to contribute to any of my post keep you're opinion to you're self its that simple
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:02 am

i dont think anyones critizing you, there are plenty members here and elsewhere that can do it but havent had a need to, it sounds like your on your way as well

I dont mind busting out support for them but there just isnt enough interest and at the end of the day its a 37 year old ecu that will eventually need repair or replacement. Its cheap and easy enough to just upgrade to a much newer ecu that is more capable, easier to find and has better controls.

If your adament about sticking with it thats cool. That is what open source DIY is all about. Someone needed it so they spent the time on it then shared their work.

I dont fully understand what your doing. I just read over thr thread and it sounds like you were searching through the hex to find specific values? The only way to break out a def is to start at the beginning of the code and muddy your way through figuring out what all its doing.
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby jeeptech77 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:30 am

Decipha a while ago i was having issues with hex locations as yo u know
so i would like to make a suggestion for the disassembly page
explain the offsets ! what program uses what !
all you advanced guys know this
but you have spent countless hours trying to diy open source things and some things that are a given are not so clear to a new guy
out of all the write ups you have thats never been clear or mentioned with the exception of i think oharris mentioning he figured out the tp offset to get things jiving
if its there its not in a good place as i don't think there is much on efidynotuning i have not read
and that task alone is one long book
la3 bin is 90% broke out and as i get time i muddle through trying to id the remaining peices of the puzzle
until then my goal at hand has been acheaved and im quite happy with things
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby decipha » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:35 am

cool, yeah ill make it more clear in there, i try to maintain things n make it as easy as possible
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Re: qh issue with tunerpro on a lb3 ecu

Unread postby motorhead1991 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:37 am

I'm still playing with m0m2 and X1L actually ;). I'm currently looking for the OL/CL functions to make the computer more boost friendly, but the tune works great for NA trucks (my NA truck has a tune on it)
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