Mach 1 CR
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Mach 1 CR
Question How high can I go on CR 04 Mach1 using 93 pump gas? and or E85 fuel?
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TFS twisted wedge heads. 10.1 CPR
Long tubs 2.5 full Exhaust
Comp Cams extreme energy 282
#30 injectors pro-m 80mm MAF Quarterhorse chip
Re: Mach 1 CR
Question How high can I go on CR 04 Mach1 using 93 pump gas? and or E85 fuel?
I am in the process of rebuilding my motor, stock CR for Mach1 is 10.1 and I would like to add little more compression...
Currently I have Kooks LT 3" collectors 3: x pipe, Todd Warren cams, BBK 65MM Throttle Body, 4.56 gears 5s speed.
I see that on ModMax Racing website they show using Manley flat top Pistons obtaining 11.17:1 CR for a 4.6 4v motor.
I will be using QH
Thank you
MB
I am in the process of rebuilding my motor, stock CR for Mach1 is 10.1 and I would like to add little more compression...
Currently I have Kooks LT 3" collectors 3: x pipe, Todd Warren cams, BBK 65MM Throttle Body, 4.56 gears 5s speed.
I see that on ModMax Racing website they show using Manley flat top Pistons obtaining 11.17:1 CR for a 4.6 4v motor.
I will be using QH
Thank you
MB
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Re: Mach 1 CR
I plan on doing a similar build. I purchased pistons from mod max and am pleased with the cp pistons they offered. If I was to go again (especially NA) I would go with custom mmr (manleys) and a coyote crankshaft with gen 3 coyote rods. To answer your question: 11:5 to 1 static compression ratio is probably fine. Less spark advance may be in order to reach mbt, Sounds like a coyote numbers because it basically is less the variable cam timing. Jmho
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2001 Ford Lightning SVT F-150 stock engine w/ inlet ported M112, GT500 rollers, ARP head studs, metco quick change upper pulley with stock sized upper, K&N intake system, bassani SS exhaust system from the stock manifold flanges back. 4x4 trans oil pan. SSBC big brakes 14” up front. Work/Street truck. My “next to build” with trick flow heads (before extinction) with h-beams & cobra jet crank (sitting in tool box) and proper pistons. Next up after the marauder is dialed in.
Re: Mach 1 CR
Also forgot to note that mod max piston charts may not be organized quite well and is a best guess from what I had calculated. CPs are good pistons but a custom piston isn’t really more expensive. Might as well stroke the motor a touch while you are there.
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Re: Mach 1 CR
Pump gas I wouldn't go any more than 11.5:1 on E85 keep it under 18:1 if your going to be boosted then under 15:1
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Re: Mach 1 CR
I did not realize you can use gen 3 coyote rods and pistons for my engine block.m-barans wrote: ↑2023 Nov 26, 21:53 I plan on doing a similar build. I purchased pistons from mod max and am pleased with the cp pistons they offered. If I was to go again (especially NA) I would go with custom mmr (manleys) and a coyote crankshaft with gen 3 coyote rods. To answer your question: 11:5 to 1 static compression ratio is probably fine. Less spark advance may be in order to reach mbt, Sounds like a coyote numbers because it basically is less the variable cam timing. Jmho
Humm Maybe a call into MMR and see what they suggest.
Ty Mb
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#30 injectors pro-m 80mm MAF Quarterhorse chip
Re: Mach 1 CR
My last build was with MMR 4.75 stroker kit for my 03 Cobra with a gen 3r 2.65 VMP
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2001 Ford Lightning SVT F-150 stock engine w/ inlet ported M112, GT500 rollers, ARP head studs, metco quick change upper pulley with stock sized upper, K&N intake system, bassani SS exhaust system from the stock manifold flanges back. 4x4 trans oil pan. SSBC big brakes 14” up front. Work/Street truck. My “next to build” with trick flow heads (before extinction) with h-beams & cobra jet crank (sitting in tool box) and proper pistons. Next up after the marauder is dialed in.
Re: Mach 1 CR
Sounds like a good build! My marauder engine is an iron block with Manley stock stroke crank, h-tuff Manley h beams and CPs with stainless rings and the 2.65 on top. I went a little heavier on the rotating assembly but she wraps out nicely.
But if I were to go N/A without the larger bores I would at least throw a coyote crank and rods in there. Inexpensive high quality mass production components, kind of like a Chevy thing! So that is a win for mod ford rodders… not to mention the weight savings
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TFS twisted wedge heads. 10.1 CPR
Long tubs 2.5 full Exhaust
Comp Cams extreme energy 282
#30 injectors pro-m 80mm MAF Quarterhorse chip
Re: Mach 1 CR
Well, I ordered my 5.0 forged stroker kit .020 over Manley flat tops pistons with king bearings from ModMax Racing.
I will use ARP handwear and have the rotating assembly balanced.
Kook LT 3" Kooks x pipe Todd Waren spec N/A cams. 65mm BBK TB #30 injectors 90mm maf sensor
When all said and done, I will be reaching out to Mr. Decipha for one of his remote tunes VIA QH to help me dial it in.
Should be a good street combo.
MB
I will use ARP handwear and have the rotating assembly balanced.
Kook LT 3" Kooks x pipe Todd Waren spec N/A cams. 65mm BBK TB #30 injectors 90mm maf sensor
When all said and done, I will be reaching out to Mr. Decipha for one of his remote tunes VIA QH to help me dial it in.
Should be a good street combo.
MB
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Re: Mach 1 CR
I remember reading about using a coyote crank but at least one of the issues was the oil pump. I don't remember full details, but the coyote crank is not plug and play. The woodruff key and oil pump rings a bell. Do you have more information on how to modify a coyote crank for these 4.6 block?m-barans wrote: ↑2023 Nov 28, 22:58Sounds like a good build! My marauder engine is an iron block with Manley stock stroke crank, h-tuff Manley h beams and CPs with stainless rings and the 2.65 on top. I went a little heavier on the rotating assembly but she wraps out nicely.
But if I were to go N/A without the larger bores I would at least throw a coyote crank and rods in there. Inexpensive high quality mass production components, kind of like a Chevy thing! So that is a win for mod ford rodders… not to mention the weight savings