deka 5 injector data

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dleach1407
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Vehicle Information: 95 Mustang GT, CBAZA Quarterhorse
331, 190 11R heads, Edelbrock Victor 50 manifold, F303, T5, 76mm Turbo, 91 octane, Returnless dual pump 03 cobra tank, Behind bars rails, 80# siemens injectors
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57 F100, RZASA, 04 Crown Vic ecu and harness, 302, GT40 heads, 4r70w, 80# deka5 shorties, Holley carb style throttle body, Speedmaster high rise intake manifold

deka 5 injector data

Unread post by dleach1407 »

I ordered a set of siemens deka 4 injectors but it appears I got the deka 5 (burbundy tip) injectors instead. Is the injector data for the deka 4 injectors the same as the deka 5? If it is different, is there any location for deka 5 injector data?
dleach1407
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Joined: 2021 Mar 21, 15:17
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Vehicle Information: 95 Mustang GT, CBAZA Quarterhorse
331, 190 11R heads, Edelbrock Victor 50 manifold, F303, T5, 76mm Turbo, 91 octane, Returnless dual pump 03 cobra tank, Behind bars rails, 80# siemens injectors
wbo2_030MtxL

57 F100, RZASA, 04 Crown Vic ecu and harness, 302, GT40 heads, 4r70w, 80# deka5 shorties, Holley carb style throttle body, Speedmaster high rise intake manifold

Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by dleach1407 »

I found the following .pdf with the information available. I think i can use this with RZASA. The data for sure is different from the deka 4 injectors. The high and low slope are all significantly different. the only thing I dont know how to convert is the breakpoint of 2.97531E-05/lb. would that be 0.0000297531?


http://racetronix.com/product/Injectors ... ksheet.pdf
decipha
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Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by decipha »

yep
dleach1407
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Joined: 2021 Mar 21, 15:17
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Vehicle Information: 95 Mustang GT, CBAZA Quarterhorse
331, 190 11R heads, Edelbrock Victor 50 manifold, F303, T5, 76mm Turbo, 91 octane, Returnless dual pump 03 cobra tank, Behind bars rails, 80# siemens injectors
wbo2_030MtxL

57 F100, RZASA, 04 Crown Vic ecu and harness, 302, GT40 heads, 4r70w, 80# deka5 shorties, Holley carb style throttle body, Speedmaster high rise intake manifold

Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by dleach1407 »

Can i request you add this data to the injector reference materials?
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Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by decipha »

I would but there is no verified published data.
dleach1407
Posts: 468
Joined: 2021 Mar 21, 15:17
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Vehicle Information: 95 Mustang GT, CBAZA Quarterhorse
331, 190 11R heads, Edelbrock Victor 50 manifold, F303, T5, 76mm Turbo, 91 octane, Returnless dual pump 03 cobra tank, Behind bars rails, 80# siemens injectors
wbo2_030MtxL

57 F100, RZASA, 04 Crown Vic ecu and harness, 302, GT40 heads, 4r70w, 80# deka5 shorties, Holley carb style throttle body, Speedmaster high rise intake manifold

Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by dleach1407 »

Chris from PAS forwarded me this site which has the same sheets and a few others injectors. The part numbers exactly match the siemens part numbers on my injectors. Chris said VDO (Continental) works directly with Siemens. http://www.usa.vdo.com/automotive/repla ... injectors/.

Edit: nevermind, I see what you are saying. Their 80s dont seem to match up with the specs for the LU80 even when multiplying by 1.054 to get them to 43.5psi.
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Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by canuck1 »

Interesting. I have the dark red (burgundy) color 80 lb/hr Siemens-Deka (shorty) injectors and was told to use the the M-9593-LU80 calibration summary (adjusted for actual fuel pressure). It seems to work OK but I'm never sure if I'm using the right data or not.

I'm attaching the injector data I used along with my adjustments for 55PSi base FP. Feel free to check my math! Let me know which calibration data you use and how it works out!
M-9593-LU80.jpg
Sean
dleach1407
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Joined: 2021 Mar 21, 15:17
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Vehicle Information: 95 Mustang GT, CBAZA Quarterhorse
331, 190 11R heads, Edelbrock Victor 50 manifold, F303, T5, 76mm Turbo, 91 octane, Returnless dual pump 03 cobra tank, Behind bars rails, 80# siemens injectors
wbo2_030MtxL

57 F100, RZASA, 04 Crown Vic ecu and harness, 302, GT40 heads, 4r70w, 80# deka5 shorties, Holley carb style throttle body, Speedmaster high rise intake manifold

Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by dleach1407 »

I've been talking to Chris on and off over the last few days. He said he has used the data provided by continental without issue and is seems to be accurate. I'm gonna try it but I'm not sure if I'll need all of those other variables for pressure changes in RZASA. I'm assuming I'll need those too for eec-v and that's not included in the continental data.
canuck1
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Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by canuck1 »

I’d love to hear how the Continental supplied data works for you. Please share your results when you’re able.

Sean
dleach1407
Posts: 468
Joined: 2021 Mar 21, 15:17
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Vehicle Information: 95 Mustang GT, CBAZA Quarterhorse
331, 190 11R heads, Edelbrock Victor 50 manifold, F303, T5, 76mm Turbo, 91 octane, Returnless dual pump 03 cobra tank, Behind bars rails, 80# siemens injectors
wbo2_030MtxL

57 F100, RZASA, 04 Crown Vic ecu and harness, 302, GT40 heads, 4r70w, 80# deka5 shorties, Holley carb style throttle body, Speedmaster high rise intake manifold

Re: deka 5 injector data

Unread post by dleach1407 »

Will do. It will be a few months most likely as the truck is still in pieces. I have just about everything now to get it wired up. I'm doing a new 21 circuit harness and starting from scratch so it's a lot of work. I started pulling the original harness today but ended up cleaning my garage so i have room to work. I'll update when i make some progress.
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